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VCA810: vca810做agc

Part Number:VCA810Other Parts Discussed in Thread: VCA820

求助各位大神们,为什么我这个电路在输入信号500k的时候不能把输出信号压在100mV上啊,是我哪里的参数要改吗?

Amy Luo:

您好,

您是说哪里的输出?您可以附上您的仿真电路吗?我在我这边具体看下

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?? ?:

就是5号引脚是输出引脚,3号脚是控制电压,6,7是电压,1是同相输入,8是反相输入。

仿真电路就是按照VCA810给的数据手册上的AGC应用电路搭建的,我个人修改了一些参数,但是我在仿真的时候发现在10k到200k左右的信号输入时,都能保持把输出信号的峰值限制在100mV,但是超过200kHz之后,输出的信号的幅值就会随着信号频率增加而增加,同时输出的幅值也会随着输入信号的幅值而变化,我不知道是哪里出了问题,烦请大神指点

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Amy Luo:

电路图中 标出的输入信号参数是2mV to 2V 100KHZ,如果工作在500K,应该与 attack and release 时间有关,这两时间应该更短一些,具体关系我现在也没弄清楚,我需要再研究下。您可以附上您的仿真文件吗?

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?? ?:

VCA810 – autosave 23-03-18 00_29 – autosave 23-03-18 10_00 – autosave 23-03-18 16_28.TSC

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Amy Luo:

好的,感谢提供~

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?? ?:

 请问大神,您弄懂了吗,我这边实在是搞不清楚是为什么

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Amy Luo:

我还在研究,我在内网看到如下分析,您可以先看下:

The frequency range for this circuit will depend on how accurately you want the circuit to correct the gain. The gain correction charge times will be based on the RC values of R3 and CH for the positive charge time and R1, R2, and CH for the negative charge time. Based on the given ratios, the positive charge time will be 25 times faster than the negative charge time. Setting the reference voltage (VR) equal to the desired output peak voltage would correspond to a positive charging duty cycle of about 3.85%. This is about 25 times less than the negative charging duty cycle which would result in an equal charge and discharge voltage for the gain control.

A 100kHz input (10us period), will result in a positive charge time of 10us/25 = 400ns, which corresponds to a 1-e^(-400ns/(1kΩ*0.1uF)) = 0.38% overshoot on the gain control voltage (Vc). As you decrease the frequency, the overshoot will increase and the abiltity to accurately track the output will decrease which will also cause the output to look noisier. To keep the same overshoot at 10kHz, you can change your value of CH = [-1/(25*10kHz)]/ [ln(1-0.038)*1kΩ] = 1uF, but the current setup should be ok at 10kHz. If you increase the frequency, this reduces the amount of overshoot, but it takes longer for the output to settle to the final value so there will be a tradeoff there.

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?? ?:

我仔细阅读了这篇分析。首先,作为电路设计小白,十分感谢大佬的分享,但同时,我们的问题出在频率较高时会出现很明显的超调,也即overshoot,而不是较低频率,望大佬能够帮忙解答我们的疑惑

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Amy Luo:

我已将这个问题发布在E2E英文技术论坛上,请更了解这款芯片的TI资深工程师为您解答,一旦得到回复后我会立即回复给您。

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Amy Luo:

您好,

我向您的My TI 注册邮箱发了一封邮件,您可以查看邮箱回复邮件吗?

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Amy Luo:

我看到您邮件描述说电路在高频范围内表现良好,目前您对于vca810还有什么具体问题要咨询吗?

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Amy Luo:

E2E英文工程师的回复是建议您使用 VCA820 ,并附了下面链接,里面有VCA820 实现高频的仿真电路,希望对您有帮助:

https://e2e.ti.com/support/amplifiers-group/amplifiers/f/amplifiers-forum/1106330/vca810-vca810

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